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Cedar vs Pressure-Treated Calculator

The DIY decking decision tool — pick a cedar grade (Western Red Clear / Select Knotty / STK or Northern White) against a PT tier (generic SYP, YellaWood, Wolmanized, Weather Shield). 10-dimension scoreboard: installed cost · 25-yr TCO · lifespan · decay class · insect resistance · splintering · heat retention · weight · IRC ground-contact · sustainability. Built on 2026-Q1 lumber-yard pricing + IRC 2021 R317 ground-contact rules. Cedar-boards-on-PT-joists is often the best-of-both — the calc flags it when deck height triggers IRC R317.1. Pairs with Cedar Deck Calculator (BoM) and PT Deck Cost Calculator (PT-only deep-dive).

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4 cedar grades4 PT tiers10-dimension scoreboard25-yr TCOIRC R317 + R507DIY vs pro maintenanceFree forever
$1.85-8.50·Board $/lf range
18-27yr·Lifespan range
Class 1-2·Decay resistance
10-dim·Score & winner

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Deck dimensions

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Effective area192 sqft
Board LF (incl waste)460.8 lf

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Head-to-head

Western Red Cedar — Select Knotty vs YellaWood SYP · 192 sqft · PA (Northeast, 1.22× labor)

Recommended for this scope
YellaWood SYP

Lower 25-yr TCO by $4,199 — install + maintenance. PT's chemical treatment delivers higher decay class (1 vs 2) and IRC ground-contact compliance, plus install costs ~20% lower than Western Red Cedar — Select Knotty.

Cedar
Western Red Cedar — Select Knotty
Mid-grade, sound knots
Install
$11,894
$/sqft
$62
Lifespan
22 yr
25-yr TCO
$16,077
Wins
2 dim
Pressure-treated
YellaWood SYP
25-yr warranty, MCA chemistry
Install
$9,491
$/sqft
$49
Lifespan
25 yr
25-yr TCO
$11,878
Wins
7 dim

10-dimension scoreboard

DimensionCedarPTWinner
Installed cost
Real project cost for 192 sqft incl. boards, framing, fasteners, railing, stairs, finish, labor in Northeast.
$11,894$9,491 PT
25-yr TCO
Install + 25 years of DIY maintenance + board-replacement reserve. Cedar yearly oil vs PT biennial seal + every-5-yr stain.
$16,077$11,878 PT
Expected lifespan
Real-world service life with on-schedule maintenance. Skip maintenance and lifespan drops ~30%.
22 yrs25 yrs PT
Decay resistance (AWPA class)
Cedar relies on natural thujaplicins (oils) for decay resistance; PT relies on copper-based chemical treatment. PT chemistry is more aggressive — Class 1 (best) vs cedar's Class 2 (good).
Class 2 (natural)Class 1 (chemical) PT
Insect resistance
Cedar oils deter most insects but carpenter ants/bees may still bore. PT chemistry repels termites + carpenter ants reliably.
7/109/10 PT
Splintering resistance
Cedar's soft, straight-grain wood splinters far less than PT's denser SYP — better for kids + bare feet.
8/106/10 Cedar
Heat retention (sunny 90°F)
Cedar's lower density means lower thermal mass — slightly cooler than PT in direct sun. Both far cooler than dark composite.
+4°F+0°F PT
Board weight
Cedar ~25% lighter than PT. Matters for DIY install (easier carries, no chemical residue on skin) + load on substructure.
2.4 lb/lf3.2 lb/lf Cedar
Ground-contact rated
IRC R317.1 requires ground-contact-rated lumber within 6″ of grade. Cedar joists are not allowed below 6″ — must build on PT framing. PT is rated for direct contact.
No (above-grade only)Yes (UC4A) PT
Sustainability
Cedar has no chemical treatment (compostable end-of-life) but old-growth sourcing concerns. PT carries copper-based chemistry through to disposal — not recyclable, mild bioaccumulation in soil if buried.
6/105/10 Tie
Total dimension winsCedar 2·PT 7·tie 1

Tolerances applied to flag ties on trivial deltas. Decay-class score inverted (Class 1 = best in AWPA, scored as 5 in higher-is-better).

Cost breakdown (high estimate)

Line itemCedarPT
Boards (waste +10%)$2,534$991
Fasteners$355$182
PT framing substructure$1,440$1,440
Railing$1,520$1,040
Stairs$780$780
Initial finish (year-0)$317$288
Labor (Northeast 1.22×)$3,631$3,631
Project install$11,894$9,491
25-yr maintenance (DIY)$3,600$2,160
Board replacement reserve$583$228
25-yr TCO total$16,077$11,878

Both scenarios use PT pressure-treated substructure (joists, ledger, posts). Cedar always pairs with stainless fasteners (tannin reaction); PT modern MCA chemistry uses HDG; legacy ACQ generic also needs stainless. 2026-Q1 lumber-yard retail. Excludes permit, design fees, demolition.

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16′ × 12
Cedar 5/4×6
Joists
13 × 12′
Beams
1 × 2-ply 2×10
Posts
3 × 6×6
Boards
27 rows

How to use

How to use the cedar vs pressure-treated comparison in 5 steps.

  1. 1

    Enter deck size + height

    Length × width in feet plus shape (rectangle or L-shape — L-shape applies 0.85 area factor + 1.10 complexity premium on perimeter). Deck height in inches drives railing trigger (>30″ → guardrail per IRC R312.1) AND cedar ground-contact warning (<6″ from grade → cedar joists prohibited, PT required per IRC R317.1).

  2. 2

    Pick a cedar grade

    Western Red Cedar Clear ($8.50/lf, no knots, premium look, 25-yr life), WRC Select Knotty ($5.50, sound knots, mid-grade DIY favorite, 22-yr), WRC STK ($4.50, more knots, 18-yr life), or Northern White Cedar ($4.95, East-coast option, narrower boards). Premium clear is bookmatch joinery quality; STK is utility-deck quality. All cedars share the same maintenance schedule and decay/insect resistance profile.

  3. 3

    Pick a PT tier

    Generic SYP ($1.85/lf, no warranty, cheapest, often ACQ chemistry → needs stainless fasteners). YellaWood ($2.15, 25-yr warranty, MCA chemistry — HDG fasteners safe). Wolmanized ($2.10, 30-yr warranty — longest in industry, CA-C chemistry). Weather Shield ($1.99, 25-yr warranty, MCA). Branded PT is ~10-15% pricier than generic but delivers warranty + reliable end-tag stamping.

  4. 4

    Project years + maintenance approach

    TCO horizon 5-50 yrs. Toggle DIY vs professional maintenance — DIY is $0.45-0.75/sqft/yr at retail product cost; professional is $1.85-2.25/sqft/yr labor included. Cedar takes yearly Penofin/Sikkens oil + soap-wash; PT takes biennial Thompson's WaterSeal + every-5-yr stain refresh. Skip maintenance and cedar drops to ~12 yrs, PT to ~14 yrs lifespan.

  5. 5

    Read the scoreboard + recommendation

    10-dimension comparison: install cost · TCO · lifespan · decay class · insect resistance · splintering · heat · weight · ground-contact · sustainability. Tie-breaker is TCO when scoreboard is within 1. Watch the caveat for cedar-on-PT-substructure recommendation: cedar boards on PT joists is often the best-of-both at premium-cedar pricing minus the IRC ground-contact concern.

How we calculate

How DeckMath calculates this — IRC 2021 sources.

The Cedar vs Pressure-Treated Calculator is the DIY decking decision tool — pick a cedar grade (Western Red Clear / Select Knotty / STK or Northern White) against a PT tier (generic SYP, YellaWood, Wolmanized, Weather Shield), enter deck size + state, and get installed cost, 25-yr TCO, lifespan, and a 10-dimension scoreboard covering decay resistance, insect resistance, splintering, heat retention, weight, ground-contact compliance, and sustainability. Built on 2026-Q1 lumber-yard pricing + IRC 2021 R317 ground-contact rules. Pairs with the Cedar Deck Calculator (BoM) and PT Deck Cost Calculator (PT-only deep-dive).

IRC references

  • IRC 2021 R317.1 — Decay-resistant lumber within 6″ of grade or in direct contact (PT required, cedar not rated)
  • IRC 2021 R317.3 — Naturally durable woods (cedar, redwood, black locust) acceptable for non-ground-contact above 6″
  • IRC 2021 R507.6 — Joist span tables (SYP allows longest spans; cedar shorter spans than SYP)
  • IRC 2021 R312.1.1 — Guardrail required where walking surface >30″ above grade
  • AWPA U1-23 — Use Categories for treated lumber (UC3B above-ground; UC4A ground-contact required for joists/ledger)
  • ASTM D3345 — Wood preservation test for insect resistance

2026-Q1 retail. Cedar: WRC Clear $8.50/lf, WRC Select Knotty $5.50, WRC STK $4.50, Northern White $4.95. PT: Generic SYP $1.85, YellaWood $2.15, Wolmanized $2.10, Weather Shield $1.99. Cedar fasteners stainless required ($1.85/sqft); PT modern MCA HDG OK ($0.95/sqft); ACQ generic stainless required ($1.85/sqft). PT substructure $7.50/sqft same for both. Cedar railing $38/lf vs PT $26/lf. Stairs $195/step. Initial finish $1.65 cedar / $1.50 PT per sqft. Labor $11-20/sqft × regional multiplier. Maintenance DIY: cedar $0.75/sqft/yr, PT $0.45/sqft/yr; Professional: cedar $2.25, PT $1.85.

Installed cost
projectHigh = (boardLf × pricePerLf + fasteners + framing + railing + stairs + initialFinish) × 0.92-1.08 + labor + 8% contingency

Both materials use same engine: board LF = area / 0.458 × 10% waste, then board × material $/lf + stainless/HDG fasteners ($0.95-1.85/sqft) + PT substructure ($7.50/sqft, same for both) + railing ($26 PT or $38 cedar /lf) + $195/step stairs + initial finish ($1.50 PT or $1.65 cedar /sqft year-0). Labor $11-20/sqft (wood install, no proprietary clips) × regional multiplier. 8% contingency on the high side.

Maintenance schedule
annualMaint = profile.maintPerSqftPerYear × area; total = annualMaint × tcoYears

Cedar: yearly Penofin/Sikkens UV oil application (~$0.55/sqft DIY material) + soap-wash. PT: biennial Thompson's sealer ($0.85/sqft / 2 yrs ≈ $0.43/sqft/yr) + every-5-yr full stain ($1.45/sqft / 5 ≈ $0.29/sqft/yr). Combined PT rate ~$0.45/sqft/yr DIY. Professional rates ~3-4× DIY (labor dominates).

Board replacement reserve
reserve = boardCost × 0.20 × 1.15 (applied if tcoYears ≥ lifespan - 4)

Both materials lose ~20% of boards near end-of-life from cupping, splitting, or knot loss. Cedar STK (18-yr life) hits this reserve around year 14; WRC Select (22 yrs) at year 18; PT (~25 yrs) at year 21. We apply 1.15× inflation to original board cost since you'll replace 18-22 years from now.

Dimension winner logic
winner = goal=='lower' ? min : max, with tolerance

10 dimensions evaluated. Cost/weight/heat → lower wins. Lifespan/decay/insect/splinter/sustainability/ground-contact → higher wins. Ground-contact is binary (yes/no). Tolerances: $50 install delta, $100 TCO, 1 lifespan yr, 1°F heat, 0.1 lb/lf weight, 1 point on 10-pt scales. Overall winner = majority of dimensions; ties broken by TCO.

IRC R317.1 ground-contact rule
if (deckHeightIn <= 12) cedarGroundContactProhibited = true

Cedar lacks IRC ground-contact rating — joists within 6″ of grade must be PT UC4A minimum. Solution when picking cedar: use cedar BOARDS on PT JOISTS — perfectly code-compliant, gets the cedar aesthetic at PT's structural cost.

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Cedar vs pressure-treated questions, answered.

  • Different strengths. Cedar wins on aesthetics (warm reddish-brown vs PT's greenish-tan), splintering (cedar's soft straight grain vs PT's denser SYP), weight (~25% lighter), and chemical-free composition. PT wins on initial cost (~3× cheaper per lf), ground-contact compliance (IRC R317.1 allows PT in direct soil; cedar prohibited within 6″ of grade), and insect resistance (chemical treatment more reliable than cedar's natural oils against carpenter ants/termites). For a 200 sqft deck above 6″ grade height, premium clear cedar runs $4,500 more upfront than YellaWood PT but lasts about the same with proper maintenance. Most DIY decks pick PT for budget reasons; design-conscious owners pick cedar for the look.

  • With proper maintenance: cedar 18-25 years depending on grade (STK 18, Select Knotty 22, Clear 25). PT 24-27 years branded (YellaWood 25, Wolmanized 27); generic PT ~18 years without warranty backing. Without maintenance: both drop sharply — cedar to ~12 years (silvers fast, splits/cups), PT to ~14 years (UV degrades chemistry + face checking). Both materials are fundamentally wood — UV is the enemy. The difference: cedar fails by silvering and surface checking; PT fails by chemistry leaching out and rot reaching untreated heartwood.

  • Pressure-treated, by a wide margin. Generic PT SYP runs $1.85/lf vs cedar STK at $4.50/lf (cedar is 2.4× more). Premium clear cedar at $8.50/lf is 4.6× more than generic PT. For a 200 sqft deck (~600 lf of boards including waste): generic PT $1,100, YellaWood $1,290, WRC Select Knotty $3,300, WRC Clear $5,100. Material premium for cedar over PT is $2,000-4,000 on a typical deck. Factor that against expected lifespan: PT delivers more sqft-years per dollar.

  • Yes — to keep its color and slow weathering. Without finish, cedar oxidizes to a soft gray within 12-18 months (no structural impact — pure aesthetics). To preserve the reddish-brown look, apply Penofin Cedar, Sikkens Cetol Log & Siding, or Cabot Australian Timber Oil yearly. Costs ~$0.55/sqft material DIY ($165 for a 300 sqft deck per year). Cedar fans either commit to yearly oiling or accept the gray patina. Note: cedar should never be painted — paint traps moisture against the wood and accelerates rot.

  • Only above the 6″ ground-contact zone, and even then it's discouraged for joists. IRC 2021 R317.1 mandates ground-contact-rated lumber (PT UC4A) for anything within 6″ of grade. Cedar is naturally decay-resistant (R317.3 lists it as durable) but cannot be ground-contact rated by AWPA — its natural oils don't penetrate deep enough for in-soil performance. Practical solution: use cedar BOARDS on PT JOISTS. The boards are above-grade visible elements; the PT structure handles ground contact and load. This is the most-recommended DIY approach for cedar decks.

  • Cedar is significantly less splintery than PT. Cedar's softer, straighter grain (Janka hardness ~350 for WRC, ~1,000 for SYP PT) means less surface fracturing under foot traffic. Cedar 9/10 vs PT 6/10 on splintering resistance. Kids + bare feet matter more than the spec sheet suggests — most barefoot-deck reviews favor cedar by 2-3 stars. PT improves significantly with yearly stain refresh (locks down surface fibers) — but cedar still wins on day-1 splinter risk.

  • Both have sustainability tradeoffs. Cedar: no chemical treatment (fully compostable end-of-life, no leaching) BUT mature-tree harvesting required (most WRC comes from BC/PNW old-growth or 2nd-growth ranges; FSC-certified options exist). PT: faster-growing SYP (sustainable plantation) BUT copper-based chemical treatment contains compounds that don't break down in soil + can't be safely burned. Cedar score 6-8/10 (depending on grade + sourcing); PT 4-5/10 (chemistry penalty). For LEED projects, cedar wins easily; for budget pragmatism, PT's plantation source matters.

  • Cedar is slightly cooler — about 4°F less surface temp than PT on a sunny 90°F day. The difference is small because both are wood (similar thermal mass), but cedar's lower density means slightly less radiant heat absorption. Compared to composite/PVC, both wood materials run cooler than dark composite (~15-20°F cooler than Trex Enhance dark colors). Light-stained PT or light cedar both perform close to identical for barefoot comfort.

  • Both want stainless steel — for different reasons. Cedar's tannin acids react with standard galvanized (causes black streaks down the boards within months). PT chemistry (especially ACQ-treated generic) is corrosive to galv (rusts through screws in 3-5 yrs). Recommended: stainless 305 or 316 (marine-grade) for screws, post bases, and hangers on cedar AND on ACQ-treated PT. For modern MCA-treated PT (YellaWood, Weather Shield), HDG G185 hot-dipped is acceptable — ASTM A153 spec. Joist hangers: Simpson Stainless or HDG ZMAX, matched to fastener type.

  • Pressure-treated wins on 25-yr TCO by $2,500-4,500 on a typical 200-300 sqft deck. The math: cedar's $2-4/lf material premium compounds with cedar's higher fastener cost ($1.85/sqft stainless required vs $0.95/sqft HDG OK for MCA PT) and higher cedar-railing cost ($38/lf vs $26/lf PT). Maintenance is similar over 25 yrs (both ~$0.45-0.75/sqft/yr). PT's lower upfront wins decisively for DIY budget builds. Cedar's TCO advantage only shows up if you value aesthetics + splintering enough to ignore the $3,000-5,000 premium.

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